In Ethereum, the contract address/account isn't formed trivially from a cryptographically-generated private-public key pair, but rather by using a separate method, as described here.

In Substrate, similar to this, a pallet-account is formed from inside the runtime by passing a PalletId (a unique identifier assigned to the pallet) to the into_account() function instead of passing a random seed as is done for normal account formation. For example: T::PalletId::get().into_account()

My question now is, how can we be sure that the account address won't be replicated by anyone else/ other pallets in the chain?

  • are you trying to convert a PalletId into an AccountId type? Feb 17, 2022 at 12:29
  • You mean one could generate accounts until you get the AccountId of a Pallet and then steal the Pallets' funds? Feb 17, 2022 at 17:14
  • @Purple_Turtle Yes, that's the intent. Feb 18, 2022 at 8:37

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You cannot be sure that it won't be replicated. A different pallet could use the same seed (pallet id) to generate an account id and thus "impersonate" your pallet. This is not a problem, though, because the assumptions about pallets are different from smart contracts: Pallets are trusted modules included in the runtime deliberately by the people building the runtime (in contrast to smart contracts that can be created in a permissionless way). Thus it is fine to assume that the pallets included in a runtime cooperate with each other. If you need to generate an account id that cannot be easily replicated, you will want to use hashing on unpredictable/uncontrollable inputs such as the account sending an extrinsic in combination with its nonce and the current block number.

  • Thanks a lot for the clarification. Feb 18, 2022 at 8:36
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    @AsmitaDhungana Could you mark this this reply as the answer?
    – AurevoirXavier
    Sep 6, 2022 at 13:10
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    @AurevoirXavier Sure! Sep 8, 2022 at 10:37

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